So sad. So, so sad. And I see if from both sides, because if you’re not doping like the rest of ’em, you can’t even compete! How do you make that sport clean? I dunno at all because obviously these guys are masters of manipulating the data.
I’m in the boxing gym sparring with some guy who’s 200lbs where I weigh in at 135. He’s laying in to me and I go the three two-minute rounds. Find out later that not only is he heavier than me, he takes steroids at times. I mean – freakin’ amateur boxing?!? And he’s preparing for his first fight?!?
I get it: weakness/crutch. And then, personally, I don’t get it.
This is a good example to live a honest life because anything other than that will bite you in the ass. It would be easier to have owned up to taking performance enhancing drugs, it was the era he was not the first nor will he be the last. Everyone makes mistakes and if you own up to them people generally forgive. Look at Charlie Sheen, the guy goes bat shit crazy, insults everything and everyone but has cleaned up and is back on TV with everyone loving him more or less again.
The example I use: Andy Pettitte star pitcher of the Worlds Finest New York Yankees … He owned up to his mistakes and the fans, press forgave him over time. Lance, like it or not is a Grade A Asshat. I really do not feel bad for him at all.
there will always be those who take the shortcuts but what they fail to see is that there are no shortcuts. In time sooner or later it will catch up with you. Pure athletes are not so hard to find, but chances are they may not be making the big money and looking in the mirror each morning and lying straight to their own faces, unable to sleep at nights. Never give up doing the right thing, never. What is sad is that the USADA has alot of cleaning up to do in the world of the Olympics, they certainly have their work cut out for them. Look at how long it took them to bring Armstrong to a hault. Much like O.J. Simpson he walks around in public with that money on his back now, knowing the public knows the truth. All that guilt has to be one giant bitter pill to try and swallow each day
At least the only thing OJ has to worry about is picking up the soap while taking a shower in prison. Lance on the other hand would be wise to fall off the grid for about … Forever.
I’m am really, REALLY against people taking performance-enhancing drugs for various reasons that I won’t go into now but that involve my experiencing some very nasty side effects from prescripted, legal drugs for an illness I have.
Despite this, my view is that Lance Armstrong was simply the one that got caught. He was dumber than the other dumbos that take the stuff.
Look, it’s so commonplace these days. Even amateur athletes take the stuff like crazy. It was common 20 years ago when I first started competing, and it’s insanely common now.
It’s about time that the world clued up to the fact that if someone is an elite athlete on TV / in the Olympic games, they’re doping.
You just can’t get that edge ahead unless you are.
What to do about it is another question. I reckon they should just admit to it, make drugs legal, and monitor it all to keep everyone as safe as possible. Share the info and be honest.
Like I said, I’m totally against PEDS, but if they’re going to do it anyway, nothing will stop them.
And maybe we need to rethink the whole hero-worship of elite sportpeople while we’re at it.
I completely agree with your last statement in regards to hero worship! However I will disagree a bit … The scale to which the doping scheme Lance was involved with is nauseating! He was the best cheater of all known cheaters, period. He was not dumb, an arrogant self absorbed asshole? You bet! This is a polarizing topic that pulls from many angles … I love it! Take care and thank you for stopping over to share. 🙂
I don’t know enough about the scale to which Armstrong was cheating, so I can’t comment with any wisdom on that.
I do, however, have real experience of PED usage within elite sports from my own background. Not pretty. It’s everywhere. And the more I learn and research the more I am dead against them. The human body is an incredible machine – you just don’t risk trashing it, not for any edge you might gain, no matter what the rewards. But, like I said, if people are going to do it anyway, under monitored conditions would be best. The hypocrisy of the current situation is unbelievable.
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dang right! I don’t need any junk in my body-
Amen!!!
Most of these so called athletes today are lacking a “Spine”. 😉
yes. lol.
So sad. So, so sad. And I see if from both sides, because if you’re not doping like the rest of ’em, you can’t even compete! How do you make that sport clean? I dunno at all because obviously these guys are masters of manipulating the data.
I’m in the boxing gym sparring with some guy who’s 200lbs where I weigh in at 135. He’s laying in to me and I go the three two-minute rounds. Find out later that not only is he heavier than me, he takes steroids at times. I mean – freakin’ amateur boxing?!? And he’s preparing for his first fight?!?
I get it: weakness/crutch. And then, personally, I don’t get it.
You are right, this is so very sad and maddening. It truly is amazing what some people will do to get an advantage … In any aspect of life.
I like this blogger’s perspective on the matter: http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/20593095/if-lance-armstrong-wants-to-redeem-himself-he-has-to-stop-lying-to-us
This is a good example to live a honest life because anything other than that will bite you in the ass. It would be easier to have owned up to taking performance enhancing drugs, it was the era he was not the first nor will he be the last. Everyone makes mistakes and if you own up to them people generally forgive. Look at Charlie Sheen, the guy goes bat shit crazy, insults everything and everyone but has cleaned up and is back on TV with everyone loving him more or less again.
The example I use: Andy Pettitte star pitcher of the Worlds Finest New York Yankees … He owned up to his mistakes and the fans, press forgave him over time. Lance, like it or not is a Grade A Asshat. I really do not feel bad for him at all.
I agree he is a Grade A Asshat…once again great minds agree
Darn, I thought you were going to say you really LOVE the Yankees … What?!? 😉
there will always be those who take the shortcuts but what they fail to see is that there are no shortcuts. In time sooner or later it will catch up with you. Pure athletes are not so hard to find, but chances are they may not be making the big money and looking in the mirror each morning and lying straight to their own faces, unable to sleep at nights. Never give up doing the right thing, never. What is sad is that the USADA has alot of cleaning up to do in the world of the Olympics, they certainly have their work cut out for them. Look at how long it took them to bring Armstrong to a hault. Much like O.J. Simpson he walks around in public with that money on his back now, knowing the public knows the truth. All that guilt has to be one giant bitter pill to try and swallow each day
At least the only thing OJ has to worry about is picking up the soap while taking a shower in prison. Lance on the other hand would be wise to fall off the grid for about … Forever.
lol true
…that monkey on his back, that is, not money
I’m am really, REALLY against people taking performance-enhancing drugs for various reasons that I won’t go into now but that involve my experiencing some very nasty side effects from prescripted, legal drugs for an illness I have.
Despite this, my view is that Lance Armstrong was simply the one that got caught. He was dumber than the other dumbos that take the stuff.
Look, it’s so commonplace these days. Even amateur athletes take the stuff like crazy. It was common 20 years ago when I first started competing, and it’s insanely common now.
It’s about time that the world clued up to the fact that if someone is an elite athlete on TV / in the Olympic games, they’re doping.
You just can’t get that edge ahead unless you are.
What to do about it is another question. I reckon they should just admit to it, make drugs legal, and monitor it all to keep everyone as safe as possible. Share the info and be honest.
Like I said, I’m totally against PEDS, but if they’re going to do it anyway, nothing will stop them.
And maybe we need to rethink the whole hero-worship of elite sportpeople while we’re at it.
I completely agree with your last statement in regards to hero worship! However I will disagree a bit … The scale to which the doping scheme Lance was involved with is nauseating! He was the best cheater of all known cheaters, period. He was not dumb, an arrogant self absorbed asshole? You bet! This is a polarizing topic that pulls from many angles … I love it! Take care and thank you for stopping over to share. 🙂
I don’t know enough about the scale to which Armstrong was cheating, so I can’t comment with any wisdom on that.
I do, however, have real experience of PED usage within elite sports from my own background. Not pretty. It’s everywhere. And the more I learn and research the more I am dead against them. The human body is an incredible machine – you just don’t risk trashing it, not for any edge you might gain, no matter what the rewards. But, like I said, if people are going to do it anyway, under monitored conditions would be best. The hypocrisy of the current situation is unbelievable.
Thanks for an interesting discussion.